1917 Erfurt Imperial Luger 

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This is a 1912 dated early Imperial Luger manufactured by the Royal Arsenal at Erfurt. The 1912 Chamber date is the year of production by Erfurt, in this case very early in the war. This is a 9mm Parabellum with a 100mm barrel. Just like it came from the battlefield of WWI.       (1975)

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Under the 1878 Treaty of Berlin, Austria-Hungary received the mandate to occupy and administer the Ottoman Vilayet of Bosnia while the Ottoman Empire retained official sovereignty. Under this same treaty, the Great Powers (Austria-Hungary, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, the Ottoman Empire, and Russian Empire) gave official recognition to the Principality of Serbia as a fully sovereign state, which four years later transformed into a kingdom under Prince Milan IV Obrenović who thus became King Milan I Obrenović. Serbia's monarchs at the time from the royal House of Obrenović that maintained close relations with Austria-Hungary were content to reign within the borders set by the treaty.

 

The right side of the receiver displays all the Imperial Army acceptance stamps.  Erfurts were always very heavily proofed; a delight to study. In 1914 the Erfurt factory stopped production of the 4" barrel and focused on the artillery model (8") and the DWM factory concentrated on the 4" production.
This model of the Luger was produced from 1908 until 1914 for the German Military when the model was changed to include the hold open and add the stock lug. That changed the model from '08 to '14 among collectors. The extractor is marked "Geladen" (loaded) and the thumb safety is marked "Gesichert" (safe).
On the left is the frame and barrel matching serial numbers. Military Lugers were numbered 1-10000 and then 1a-10000a, 1b-1000b, and so on. To properly identify your Luger always use the full serial number with the alphabet identifier. Magazine on right has a "+" sign under the "f" suffix and the lower proof indicating it was the 2nd magazine for the holster issued with this Parabellum.
This 1917 Luger is characterized by the 9mm  4" (100mm) barrel and was built with a hold open and utilized the short sear. The rear sight is "V" cut fixed and front dovetailed sight and the frame has the stock lug and hold open device. 

 

Under the 1878 Treaty of Berlin, Austria-Hungary received the mandate to occupy and administer the Ottoman Vilayet of Bosnia while the Ottoman Empire retained official sovereignty. Under this same treaty, the Great Powers (Austria-Hungary, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, the Ottoman Empire, and Russian Empire) gave official recognition to the Principality of Serbia as a fully sovereign state, which four years later transformed into a kingdom under Prince Milan IV Obrenović who thus became King Milan I Obrenović. Serbia's monarchs at the time from the royal House of Obrenović that maintained close relations with Austria-Hungary were content to reign within the borders set by the treaty.

   

This changed in May 1903 when Serbian military officers led by Dragutin Dimitrijević stormed the Serbian Royal Palace. After a fierce battle in the dark the attackers captured General Laza Petrović, head of the Palace Guard, and forced him to reveal the hiding place of King Alexander I Obrenović and his wife Queen Draga. The King and Queen opened the door from their hiding place. The King was shot thirty times; the Queen eighteen. The royal corpses were then stripped and brutally sabred. The attackers threw the corpses of King Alexander and Queen Draga out of a palace window, ending any threat that loyalists would mount a counterattack. General Petrović was then killed too (Vojislav Tankosić organized the murders of Queen Draga's brothers; Dimitrijević and Tankosić in 19131914) and figured prominently in the plot to assassinate Franz Ferdinand. The conspirators installed Peter I of the House of Karađorđević as the new King.

 

 1917 Erfurt
The Erfurt's are the most proofed models of Parabellums. The crown marks with letters are the Erfurt Royal Arsenal and the proof on the left top barrel and side of the receiver is the Erfurt Military Acceptance stamp. There are inspector marks all over the weapon in a variety of crowed stamps.  Proof marks are well struck and clearly visible.
Upper Left: The Erfurt represents a plethora of proofs starting with the tiny crown symbol on the breach block to an equally small crown proof on the trigger. Note on the barrel is the Erfurt pressure test stamp which is also on the left side of the bridge block in the upper right picture. On the right side of the receiver are small crown over letters representing the various tests and inspections during construction. Above these is a very tiny Crown RC, (Revisions – Commission), which in this case is over the third crown inspection (barrel hardened) indicating that this was brought to the attention of some factory inspector who had to approve that particular modification. Upper Right: On the barrel one can see a Crown X – this proof Mark was only used on 1908 models so this barrel, more than likely, was brought forward from a 1908 model and may have been the cause for the Crown RC inspection mark. Also noted on this side of the receiver are the very small proof marks on the small parts.
 
Here we can see the extractor with the German word for loaded, "Geladen". When a round is in the chamber this extractor protrudes and gives the shooter both a visual and tactile identification that it is loaded. Serial number placement is in the military ("exposed") style; displayed on the left side of the receiver, the side plate, the locking bolt, the sear bar safety, the extractor, the forward toggle link, the front of the frame, under the barrel, and on the side of the trigger. This example has all matching numbers.
Erfurt Luger
Everyone needs one Erfurt in their collection just to study proof marks.  This is a basic collectors gun that has all the study proofs you could ask for. This weapon is designated as a Curios and Relic (C&R) and be sent to those licensed persons. If you have Sam Costanzo's World of Lugers Proof Marks you can spend days looking up all the proofs this gun has. Every Luger can tell you a story if you're willing to explore and learn from it.

 

Among the very last pictures of Archduke Ferdinand unknowing that assassins lay in wait along his path. The first attempt was a bomb tossed into this carriage but it hit the rear cover and bounced under the following carriage destroying that and killing or wounding the occupants.  

A Serbian terrorist group, the Black Hand, resolved to assassinate Franz Ferdinand during his visit to Sarajevo on 28 June 1914, thereby stalling his proposed reforms. Earlier in the day Ferdinand's car had also been fired at by a hand grenade, causing him to complain angrily upon his arrival at the city hall. Archduke Franz Ferdinand interrupting the Mayor's welcome speech at Sarajevo's city hall, 28 June 1914."What is the good of your speeches?  I come to Sarajevo on a visit, and I get bombs thrown at me.  It is outrageous!"

While riding in the motorcade through the streets of Sarajevo on 28 June, Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sophie were shot and killed by Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian member of the Black Hand; He first shot Sophie in the abdomen causing her severe pain and then shot Ferdinand in the chest with hist pistol.  The assassination provided Austria-Hungary with an excuse to take action against Serbia.  During July 1914 the situation escalated, pulling in the major European powers via the complex alliance relationships each had struck up with one another.  The result was world war.  BELOW The trial of the Muslim Black Hand society which Gavrilo Princip, center, was too young for the death penalty and died under harsh prison conditions.

 

 

 

The above shot gives you the 1912 date, the last year without the mortise on the front of the frame for the artillery barrel and the two proofs on the barrel with the Final Acceptance Stamp and Crown R/C for an factory call back for most likely addition of the hold open. Plus the second toggle Erfurt Logo

Above Left: The thumb safety are Type III with the last two digits of the serial number and proofs.  ABOVE RIGHT: Looking up under the barrel one can see the serial numberand the gauge markings (8.83) which was measured when the barrel was installed. You can also see this full serial number on the side of the receiver in the last two digits on the locking lever and the side plate.

 1917 Erfurt Luger
The bottom of the gun is nice and clean and does not show excessive wear. there is evidence that the gun was carried in the holster with wear on the muzzle, the side plate, and the bottom of the grips.

This is one of the most impressive Erfurts that we have seen in 40 years of dealing in the Luger. Note the top of the thumb safety, the extractor, 1st and 2nd toggle link reveal the last two digits of the serial number.

 

 

At the outbreak of WWI the German Army seemed reasonably equipped with the Luger Pistol. The DWM factory in Berlin moved to peak production by 1915 and were producing 700 Parabellums per day; however this didn't meet the requirements for the massive mobilization.

 

Clean and well kept by its owner this Luger has the short sear a Crown RC indicating it was brought back to the arsenal for either repair or replacement of a part.  The barrel is strong with clear lands and grooves.
Original grips are finely cut diamond shaped checkering made from walnut or in some cases beech wood, and were serial numbered to the gun. When installed by the Erfurt factory also proofed. Also in the above right picture you can see the Crown Letter proof on the screws, a characteristic of the early Erfurt.
A close-up of the inside of the grips shows various inspector marks, the last two digits of the serial number, and a very small crown proof.

It is very different in this day and age, to even imagine the amount of detail that was going into these guns both by the craftsman that built them and inspectors who checked every part.

Everyone needs one Erfurt in their collection just to study proof marks. This is a basic collectors gun that has all the study proofs you could ask for. This weapon is designated as a Curios and Relic (C&R) and be sent to those licensed persons. See Kenyon, Lugers At Random Page 168

 

The Erfurt factory was originally located in Saarn and then moved to Erfurt under private ownership. It was then purchased by the Prussian government and produced huge quantities of weapons, estimated to exceed 800,000 before being dismantled by the Allies at the end of the WWI and the machinery then sold to Simson. The 1910 Erfurt Imperial Acceptance stamp was the Imperial Eagle with  the cross of peace and the bar of justice, still heraldic in nature as an Imperial proof. The war destroyed vast quantities and these 90 yr old guns that have survived today are treasured in  collections throughout the world.

 

1917 Erfurt

This is a excellent example of the hard to find late War 1917 dated Erfurt Imperial Parabellum  and built by the Royal Erfurt Arsenal for the Imperial Army. The finish on this Luger is early war polished and rust blued making it distinctive from the majority of the war mass produced models. This is a handsome Erfurt that any collector would be proud to display.  This all matching Parabellum is offered for $2,895.00 over-the-counter.

We reserve the right to sell any internet offering to a direct sale and do not warrant the availability of any firearm that does not have a physical deposit. Call for availability. This gun may be withdrawn without notice for in-store sale. Any questions or request for additional pictures email to josef@phoenixinvestmentarms.com.

 

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