1917 Luger Artillery Imperial WWI Carbine

This is a 1914 Model, chamber dated 1917 DWM 8" model with the 800 meter adjustable rear sight mounted on the barrel. The 1917 Chamber Date is one of the most difficult of the Artillery models in this pristine condition. The original intent was to issue the 8" weapon to gun boat crews but it then became standard issue to machine gun crews and artillery units. (1665)

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This is a 9mm weapon with all the matching parts marked in the military manner (exposed). The barrel is 200mm and it has the adjustable leaf site. The Imperial proofs are well struck and tell the story of the gun. The barrel inside is shiny with distinctive lands and grooves. The magazine is clean and grips match the gun. The thumb safety "up" covering the German word "Gesichert" (safe) the safety block behind the sear is down and the gun loaded and ready to fire.


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The front site is an adjustable model which was discontinued in early 1917. this is one of those rare guns produced in the beginning of the year and is coveted by the investor seeking the condition of the late models but all the variations included in the earlier models. The cut (Upper Right) is the inside of the lined cup and is the distinctive sign of the original manufacture.
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This is a 1914 Model, chamber dated 1917 DWM 8" model with the 800 meter adjustable rear sight mounted on the barrel. This 200mm barreled artillery model is all matching, including the stock to the match the gun and the magazines all match. This dated full rig shows up in this condition once ever 40 years.

Acknowledging a requirement to protect the crew served weapons the German army was in search of a shorter, more lightweight weapon than the K98. The Luger Carbine was well known (the Kaiser hunted with one), so the idea for a long barreled pistol with a stock was an easy jump to make.


This Parabellum is in very good condition, having been in a good home the last 42 years in a private collection. Below all the parts are displayed.
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Here one can see the extractor marked "Geladen" [Loaded] the extension of the extractor could be felt in the dark give the soldier the assurance he was ready to fire.

The frame has the stock lug and the thumb safety. The thumb safety is marked "Gesichert" and extractor "Geladen". The barrel is numbered and proofed to the weapon. The inside of the gun is clean and well cared for. The original intent was to issue the 8" weapon to gun boat crews but it then became standard issue to machine gun crews and artillery units.
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The Imperial proofs are well struck and tell the story of the gun. The barrel inside is shiny with distinctive lands and grooves. The exterior of the gun is very clean for 95 year old battlefield pickup. The magazines are clean and grips match the gun.
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The serial numbers are marked in the "military manner" meaning they are exposed on the parts. This Luger has all matching parts. The low 4 digit serial number without a suffix puts this Parabellum in the early part of 1917. This is a great collector grade weapon, all matching serial number, with all components, and a wonderful addition to anyone's collection.

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There are three matching magazines for the gun and the two magazine pouch. Above Right: The loading tool is Imperial Proofed, original issue to the weapon.

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The holster is in excellent shape. The cop strap is in good condition and the back shows the stock block where the straps affix to the stock.

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The inside of the holster is still flexible and all parts are function. It has the manufacturers cartouche and the 1917 date.

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The magazine pouch is identified by the closure, the proof (above left) and rear if the pouch (in this case the loop is not died black) is stitched in a "L" manner to enable it to be worn on a belt or running the strap vertically it can be worn over the shoulder.

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Above Left: The Crown S on the stock shows the military acceptance of the stock and is one of the authenticators of the genuine versions.

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Above: Sometimes in examination people think the leaf site is bent. However, when raising the site to the full 800 meter position reveals a 7° left movement. This design compensates for the rifling on the 200 mm barrel which gives the bullet a twist in flight and if properly adjusted will permit a corrected point of impact. Another example of Luger engineering. This was designed as a precision weapon and with the extended barrel and 800m rear sight make it formidable.

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Here you can see how the rig assembles into the carbine. The leather is still subtle and complete with all the straps, cups, and keepers and with a little care should last another 100 years. The double magazine pouch is made of the same color leather as the holster and has no markings that we have found. The stock iron protective cup is lined.

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This Parabellum is in very good condition for 98 yrs old, having been in a good home the last 46 years in a private collection. Here you can see inside the gun and the care it has received these past years. The gun in full recoil just about fully compresses the coil spring.

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The Cleaning rod is an original with the head that turns and is small barreled. Below the Luger in full recoil with the thumb safety up, covering the Gesichert meaning the gun is ready to fire.

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