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This is a DWM (Deutsche Waffen und Munitions Fabriken)) chamber dated 1915 DWM 8" (200mm) model with the 800 meter adjustable rear sight mounted on the barrel. The 1915 Chamber Date is one of the most difficult of the Artillery models in this pristine condition.  This is an outstanding complete rig with an all-matching Parabellum, a dated holster, matching stock, magazine pouch with two matching magazines, cleaning rod and loading tool   (1718)

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In WWI the machine guns and artillery were up front and exposed to enemy fire. Moving the weapon was manual and with a rapid fire weapon ammunition was a task. Old black powder pistols and obsolete calibers were in need of replacement. The long barrel Pistole was designed to be an alternative to the full length Mauser K98 in 1912.


This is a 9mm weapon with all the matching parts marked in the military manner (exposed). The barrel is 200mm and it has an adjustable front site. The frame has the stock lug and the thumb safety.  The imposition of the Treaty of Versailles (1923) which denied Germany the ability to build or possess any 9mm barreled gun in excess of 99mm took these 'artillery models' out of the inventory.

The thumb safety is marked "Gesichert" and extractor "Geladen".  The barrel is numbered and proofed to the weapon. The inside of the gun is clean and well cared for. 

The Imperial proofs are well struck and tell the story of the gun.  The barrel inside is shiny with distinctive lands and grooves.  The magazine is clean and matching; the grips match the gun. The original intent was to issue the 8" weapon to gun boat crews but it then became standard issue to machine gun crews and artillery units.

Authors Sturgess & Görtz wrote in Vol I Pistole Parabellum that the probability of mass production was launched after the beginning of WWI in August 1914. DWM had already produced (known by surviving guns) the 4" P08's and was into the 'c' suffix range indicating that it was approaching 40,000 guns when the LP-08 was introduced. It should therefore be disingenuous to suppose, as has been the received wisdom, that DWM LP.08s, which could only have been made in the latter half of 1914, should have had their no suffix serial numbers interspersed amongst those of the no suffix of the P08s, which were made in the first month of 1914.  "The inevitable conclusion is the DWM's 1914 production of was numbered in a separate range than their P.08's." [¶421]. The year 1915 saw the full production of the Lange Pistole by DWM.

The serial numbers are marked in the "military manner" meaning they are exposed on the parts. This Luger has all matching parts with the serial number and gauge marking on the barrel and the matching serial number on the frame. The serial number with a no suffix is representative of the relatively early numbers of "artillery" model produced in 1915 with no suffix.


Acknowledging a requirement to protect the crew served weapons the German army was in search of a shorter, more lightweight weapon than the G98.  The Luger Carbine was well known (the Kaiser hunted with one), so the idea for a long barreled pistol with a stock was an easy jump to make.  In 1914 DWM did not receive the contract for the LP.08 until August and allowing for re-tooling and only produced an estimated output of 2000. The Royal Arsenal at Erfurt to produced the 8" Parabellum and with the greater capacity of 22,000 into the 'b' suffix; the only dated year Erfurt produced the LP.08,

Different style of wearing the Lange Pistole are shown with the belt loops as a single holster, and then with the stock, strap and extra magazine pouch on the right soldier. The center reveals an aircraft spotter who wears the long barrel Luger to shoot at opposing aircraft while directing artillery fire. Early on pistol production appeared before the completion of the leather so modified holsters are found in early photos.


In 1914 the decision was made to devote the entire production of the Lange Pistole (LP)-08 to the Erfurt Imperial Arsenal and DWM to produce the 100mm (4") Luger. Documents reveal that DWM did not get the contract until August 1914 so this year produced minimal numbers and these models are very difficult to find dated in the 1915 series.

Note the strike mark at the end of the front sight where the adjustable front sight is sighted. The small screw set in the barrel band holds this adjustment to provide the shooter with a fine tune of the sight picture. With a small brass tool one was capable of adjusting the alignment with the rear sight and the shooters eye so that all adjustments could be made from the leaf sight. 

Note (above) on the leaf sight where a tiny '84' is seen both on the sight and extractor. When the role of the gun began to change after 1916 discovery of its effectiveness as an assault and repel gun the long range option was omitted in late 1917 & 1918 models.

This is a 9mm weapon with all the matching parts marked in the military manner (exposed). The pins are still show the evidence of nitrate blue and the long sear is still in evidence, preventing the cocking of a 'safe' weapon. The Imperial proofs are well struck and tell the story of the gun.  The barrel inside is shiny with distinctive lands and grooves. 

The right side of the receiver displays all the Imperial Army acceptance stamps. Original grips are finely cut diamond shaped checkering made from walnut or in some cases beech wood. These grips and the firing pin are serial numbered to the gun. The original firing pins were marked with the serial number and  when manufactured the original grips were marked to the gun (as these are).  Since firing pins and grips wear and break it is not unusual to find unmarked firing pins or replacement grips.


While the nomenclature of "artillery" model is an assignment of US collectors it was originally sought by aircraft personnel who needed protection aloft before machine guns were mounted. It was quickly learned that the firepower of this weapon was best used in the assault and in defense.  It became the favorite of the Stoßtruppe  (thrust troops) or assault troops due to the trommel 32 round magazine.

Here is a posed machine gun crew wearing the Lange Pistole 08 on both their belts and the left soldier with the carrying strap.  In 1912, two years before WWI the Prussian military was testing a replacement for the carbine (Gew.91) and test trials were being conducted on the Lange Pistole (long barrel Parabellum).


This Parabellum is chambered for 9x19mm and has a standard 8" barrel (200mm) with adjustable front and rear sights and walnut grips.   This WWI Luger manufactured for standard issue firearm to the German military. The extractor is marked "Geladen" on the left side and the safety is marked "Gesichert" with the safe position being downward. The proof marks are the amazing story of this guns.

The bottom of the barrel assembly has the serial number on the barrel and the last two digits on the stop lug as seen above.

Above Left: The extractor is marked with GELADEN (Loaded) which gives the shooter both a visual and tactile indication when the gun is loaded. Above Right: The frame is mortised for the leaf sight to rest on when in the depressed elevation. This is one of machining changes required for the LP.08. 

Above: The arrows indicate several of the locations where the last two digits of the serial number appear plus the military acceptance stamp on the breach block. (A) Locking Lever, (B) Side Plate, (C) Sear, and (D) Sear Stop.  Note also the long sear which was standard until 1916 and the sear stop also marked with '34'. This long sear prevented the gun from being cocked with the safety on. One of Georg Luger's last patents on the P-08 was the change to a 'short' sear that performed the same mechanical function but also permitted the toggles from being pulled back.

There is minimal honest holster wear and the grips are like new.  The springs and small parts still show the fire blue and the strawed parts are excellent.

Left: The Crown S proof is found on most of the 1914 & 1915 models of LP.08's. Also the military acceptance stamp is on the receiver and the barrel. Note the tiny '34' on the leaf sight.  The grips are walnut with matching serial numbers and craftsman's stamps.


In June 3, 1913 Prussian Kaiser Wilhelm signed a secret order for the adoption of the Lange Pistole 08 for the re-arming of the artillery, aviators, and personnel in watch towers and fortresses. On July 27th, 1913 Prinzregent (Later King Ludwig III) Ludwig  of Bavaria authorized the adoption of the LP-08.  Both monarchs recognized the requirement for modern effective weapons within their military forces. 


This 101 year old gun has been cared for by other custodians to preserve it for us today in this pristine condition. The inside of the gun is clean and reflects the effort for cleaning the past 100 years. Lugers that are stored for any period of time should have the wooden grips at least waxed on the inside to protect contact with the metal.

The barrel and the receive are marked with the full serial number and suffix.  Additionally there is 8.83 reflected on the barrel which was the proof marking of land diameter of the barrel or gauge markings. The grooves designed to be 9mm.  This Parabellum has all matching numbers including the magazine. The magazine is wood based, numbered to the gun.   This Luger shows characteristic holster wear on the side plate and front exposed edges of the rails and end of the barrel.

The above pictured stock bears both the Imperial Proof (Crown over "S" - "S" Representing the Inspector). This 1915 bears the long sear that prevents the gun from being cocked when the safety is on.

The LP.08 instituted the internal reinforcement of the rear frame which was a post mid-1914-made DWM frame.  An additional removal of the spur in the bottom of the main spring house rear grip is another change that was instituted in the LP.08 and by the 'b' suffix of all the P.08s.  Conjecture that any gun that appears outside the "known" serial number range must be compared to the production characteristics of the 1915 LP.08s for confirmation of this hypothesis. 


This pre-1916 Army picture, (1916 German metal helmets were being issued), shows two soldiers with the issued leather holster and shoulder boards. The center soldier appears to be wearing a Reich's Revolver.


The inside of the gun is clean and well cared for. (A) shows the long sear disabling the gun being 'cocked' with the safety on; (B) the Imperial acceptance stamp; (C)  and the trigger serial numbered to the gun.  The exterior shows honest wear on the muzzle, barrel and high points on the sides. The barrel is shiny and shows distinct lands and grooves. This Luger shows characteristic holster wear on the side plate and front exposed edges of the rails and end of the barrel.

Above Left is the leaf sight that is adjustable for elevation up to 800 meters and also windage. Along with the adjustable front sight produced up through part of 1917 the LP.08 was was designed as a precision weapon and with the extended barrel and 800m rear sight making it formidable as a hand held weapon. 

Above Left: The firing pin has '34' the last two digits of the serial number. Above Right: The breach block has the '34' and Imperial acceptance stamp .

This above "W" feature shown to several advanced collectors could not produce any explanation as to what or when. There are no import marks on the gun; it wasn't brought in between the world wars.  The general condition of the gun doesn't lend itself to field use so it was speculated to be a presentation or a production sample.  The only "W" associated with the order for the LP.08 was General von Wad el who served as Deputy War Minister of the Kriegsministerium as recorded by the Secret Memorandum dated Dec. 5, 1912. There is no known documentation to support this connection.

Rarely do we come across a 1915 Artillery in such good condition.  Even the magazines had the ability to clean up to match the 101 years of aging. Our research over the years, tracing back the acquisition of these Lange Pistole is that they were captured from WWI Veterans that had become part of the Volksturm or the last ditch home guard. These old soldiers brought their weapons from home since at the end of the war new guns were only found on the dead. 

Inside the holster you can see the various stamps from the Imperial Corps it was accepted and passed through and the date and cartouche.  It appears that the initial issue was made to an individual whose serial number was written in the cover,  The stitching is still the original color and shows us this holster is original,
The early leather color was brown as was all the belts, and accessories.  This holster shows all the stitching to be white indicating the leather has never been stained or blackened to match the later change in uniform protocol.

The back shows the tight stitching in the original color with the stock block in the center. You can also see the small 'ears' over the cover of the cleaning to rod on the top (front of holster).

The inside of the stock cup is leather lined and the stops are still on the strap.  This device was the protection for the end of the stock which used a thumb latch to attach to a detent on the pistol stock. The leather is the original and still subtle and clean.  The screws have the brass grommets and the stock is in A-1 condition.
The matching serial number is  present in the attachment iron and this makes the stock match the gun. Very rarely seen.  When we got the magazines in the pouch they were covered with the green verdigris and cleaning with white vinegar & baking soda with a good polishing compound brought out the beauty in these matching magazines.
The double magazine pouch has the back loop sewn on so that the pouch can be worn on the belt (with the stitching restricting the belt width) and the gun strap can be placed north/south by the smaller loop to be carried over the shoulder.  At some point this pouch was died or washed with black which was off on the back and high points.
This is an original turning swivel headed cleaning rod for the Lange Pistole. (Fits in holster pouch).

The  above pictures illustrates how the straps are woven through the slots in the stock, through the stock block and back through the stock and through the keepers (rarely found on any artillery rig) to the brass connector knob.

With the "artillery" model attached and the pouch on the sling, when loaded it is ready to go.
The Parabellum as carried in the holster with the pull tab intact which assists in drawing out the gun.  Here the protective 'boot' covers the attachment iron with the original brass keepers attached to the holster. Such a magnificent gun over a hundred years old and a rare date to find.
Above Left: Another shot of the shoulder straps coming through the stock with the arrow pointing out the unique keepers seldom found on artillery rigs. Above Right: The magazine pouch with the two 2nd & 3rd matching magazines in really great condition.
Above Left:  Note on the early leaf sight with the elevation and windage strike marks and the '84' identifying this sight as all matching. The Crown S proofs and the DWM Imperial military acceptance stamp on the receiver, barrel and breach block.
It is entirely subjective to give any Luger a rating of excellent or fine, just as it is to declare it xx% blued or strawed. Few Lugers are out of the box new and these are premium priced. Bluing percentages is like Beauty, in the eye of the beholder.  We strive to provide pictures so you can judge for yourself if the gun meets your criteria. This handgun is C&R eligible and can be transferred/sold in California because C&R handguns are exempt from the roster. We are registered with the California DOJ.


Jan Still, the noted Luger author, writes in Imperial Lugers, that the 1914 model was a limited production of 5000 weapons between the serial numbers 161-1995a. Serial numbers ordinarily went from 1 to 10,000 and then the started with 1a ("a" being the suffix) which suggest closer to 20,000. Authors Sturgess & Görtz write that LP08 numbers were separately numbered from the 4" models.  Without production records to verify serial numbers and reliance on 'observed' examples creates this dichotomy to attempt limit the collector to antidotal speculation. Sometimes it becomes a case of "is what it is" or Occam's Razor can be applied.


This is an excellent example of the all-matching dated 1915 Artillery in a complete rig in minty condition with all the basic proofs for an old collection. Included with this Parabellum is the matching stock, two additional matching magazine in a leather pouch, a 1915 holster with corps and unit markings, a cleaning rod and loading tool with all the straps and accessories as issued. If you are collecting the dated LP.08's then you know how hard it is to find one like this 1915 dated. A jewel.

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